Discussion with orthodox Catholic believers and priests is very complicated and difficult. Religiously, a person is very strongly cemented in their own bunker, they hold on to this bunker very strongly and do not want to leave it. They do not want to be confronted with the truth. They want to be as isolated from the truth as possible.
In a religious environment, among religious people, your arguments that the Catholic Church's teaching on sexuality and contraception is a pretty crazy thing will not hold up at all. A religious person is very strongly entrenched, and in a discussion, instead of looking for fault in themselves for falling for such nonsense, they will look for fault in you – in a religious environment, among religious people, anyone who dares to criticize Catholic crap about sexuality is considered abnormal and strange. Among Catholics, the puritanical Catholic teaching on sexuality and contraception is considered something completely normal, something completely natural and self-evident, and no one has the slightest doubt that anything needs to be reformed in this matter. Religious believers will label you as the one at fault; in their eyes, you will be considered a sick, backward poor soul who needs help, who, poor thing, doesn't understand those "wonderful" mysteries of faith.
Many Catholics are so angry about the availability of contraception that they would like to ban the sale of hormonal contraception in pharmacies and the sale of condoms in stores. If orthodox Catholics in Slovakia were to get all the political power, you would have something to look forward to.
In a religious environment, anyone who dares to question the infallible teaching of the Catholic Church on sexuality is considered a fool. And I'm really not kidding or exaggerating. A religious environment is like living on another planet.
And that is precisely why any private discussion among such devout religious believers makes absolutely no sense. On the contrary, a public discussion with an independent moderator, to which I and a Catholic priest would be invited, and the audience would be predominantly composed of non-religious people, makes a lot of sense. In such a discussion, the priest would be forced to come out of his heavily fortified concrete bunker, and arguments like how wonderful contraception is and how I am a poor soul because I am not as fanatical a Christian as he is and do not understand the wonderful mysteries of faith, would be useless to him in front of a wide audience and would be ridiculed by the audience. There is a radical difference between a private and a public discussion with a Catholic priest or believer, and having a heavily fortified concrete bunker would be useless to him.
To supplement and explain, we could also compare that boarded-up bunker to a strongly closed religious environment, a life in a kind of own religious world, in a closed egg, living in a kind of world detached from reality. From the perspective of shamanism, it is an egregore with strong protective mechanisms.
And let's return to the topic of church and sexuality again.
How low must a religious believer sink and humiliate themselves when they let the church advise them on how to have sex (pardon the colloquial expression, but it's apt). And if a believer violates the church's teachings on sexuality and contraception, they must humiliatingly confess it to the priest.
It is very sad that even non-religious couples often have a church wedding because it is a tradition and their parents are pushing for it. However, a church wedding cannot be done without pre-marital church preparation, which consists of private lectures by a priest at the rectory for the couple. It is very sad that people allow themselves to be humiliated in this way and let the priest explain to them how they should have sex, which is all about prohibitions. It is sad that I have not yet heard of any case where a couple told the priest to go to hell for lecturing about such absurd church idiocies about sexuality, which are probably only fit for psychiatry.
Discussion with religious people
When discussing the topic of church and Christianity with religious people, despite my efforts to approach them with maximum love and respect, I have found that believers become nervous and aggressive. If you are a critic of the church or religion, you are automatically an enemy in their eyes. They have great difficulty understanding that a person wants to do them good, that a person wants to free them from the captivity of religious filth. Instead of a serious discussion, the believer will only plug their ears to criticism of religious dogmas; they are unable to simply talk about this topic, and you will be accused by the believer and attacked for being the bad one, the person with the fault, the poor soul who needs help because they lack faith. It is sad that instead of a religious person humbly reflecting on themselves and considering what stupid religious dogmas and filth they have fallen for, they will openly attack you. You want to help the religious person, but they will attack you in return.
I often hear a very funny argument from believers that I'm just looking for flaws in the church, and that the church is good (such an argument only holds up in the environment of strongly entrenched and cemented believers who live in their own world).
A believer does not like it when their religious certainties are "attacked", and any criticism of religion is considered blasphemy against God by the believer. The believer hates the truth, is afraid of it, and runs away from it. The believer has a big problem hearing the unpleasant truth about the religious crap they believe in.
Few people know the truth about Christianity, and that is precisely why Christians should be very grateful for the people who tell them the truth about Christianity. But the reality is exactly the opposite. Instead of great gratitude, you will only get spitting from a Christian and the Christian will attack you.
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